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[Dragonite]

Originally Posted by cpgobrowns

The Browns forced those turnovers. It's not like Vick sucks. Defense looked legit. Weeden on the other hand..... What did he do to earn the starting position?

McCoy would have won this game by double digits. Or he could have come in after Weeden's 4 INTs (and 2 fumbles, even though Browns recovered both) and won it by 2. Maybe starting over for the 30th time in 13 years wouldn't be so bad.

I actually very much agree with this. McCoy should be starting in Cleveland he is the far better QB at this point. The Browns defense is young and scrappy. They play hard from start to finish. They were a dropped pick in the endzone away from single handedly winning this game because the Browns Offense is terrible.

Vick is not shit he's a good QB he didn't throw the ball to the Browns D thinking they were Desean Jackson the D played damn good football and forced those picks. They pressured Vick all game long.

A stat for you. Vick was hurried or pressured more times than ANY QUARTERBACK IN THE LAST 40 YEARS in this game. That is the definition of forcing bad plays. Pressure the QB.

According to Elias Sports the last QB to be pressured more times than Vick in this game was in 1960.

[bigsexyy81]

Originally Posted by Dragonite

I actually very much agree with this. McCoy should be starting in Cleveland he is the far better QB at this point. The Browns defense is young and scrappy. They play hard from start to finish. They were a dropped pick in the endzone away from single handedly winning this game because the Browns Offense is terrible.

Vick is not shit he's a good QB he didn't throw the ball to the Browns D thinking they were Desean Jackson the D played damn good football and forced those picks. They pressured Vick all game long.

A stat for you. Vick was hurried or pressured more times than ANY QUARTERBACK IN THE LAST 40 YEARS in this game. That is the definition of forcing bad plays. Pressure the QB.

According to Elias Sports the last QB to be pressured more times than Vick in this game was in 1960.

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Please stop making excuses for his shitty excuse of a game.

[SteveRobWhatever]

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[TheSnowman]

If you're serious you belong on a fucking short bus

[TheDuke]

First off, it doesn't matter if it's 1 or 25 points. They're not going to turn a team away from the playoffs because they have more wins but 1 barely came against the Browns. Again, it's a win.

Second, Brandon Weeden is AWFUL.
Third, Michael Vick played AWFUL.
Fourth, the Eagles AND Browns defense brought it today. People need to be off Ryans saying he's done and such. The man was a stud today and unlike most Eagles linebackers the last 2 seasons he actually tackled people, even in the open field. This game scared the SHIT out of me but Vick is ironing out the kinks. I think he played smart with the exception of those rushed throws which turned into INT's but he's showed he can throw the ball away and make the smartish decisions. This offense showed signs of brilliance but then shot themselves right in the foot. I look forward to seeing what the future brings.

[TheDuke]

And anyone that says they'd rather get an L than barely beating the Browns is a moron. No offense to anyone who may have said that. Wins get you in the playoffs. And generally wins before Week 7 are a good thing.

[Dragonite]

That stat was in the local paper today it also said that the pressure in this game alone was double the most pressure Vick had in a single game before yesterday.

[bigsexyy81]

Originally Posted by Dragonite

That stat was in the local paper today it also said that the pressure in this game alone was double the most pressure Vick had in a single game before yesterday.

The o-line didn't play great, no question. But if his dumb ass could read blitzes and get rid of the ball earlier than 7 seconds, that might force off the dogs and make it so the Browns couldn't bring heat every down.

[smeagle]

well maybe a run play or two to keep the defense honest would've helped but hell, what do i know i'm just a fan.

[Dragonite]

Oh no most certainly the Eagles should have ran the ball A LOT more than they did