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[CaptainStubing]

well, vick still played pretty well but vick himself admitted that when he was a falcon, his play got sloppy and he would make more turnovers when he got comfortable and wasn't as motivated and focused.

Vick got a huge contract right before the season started .............. I honestly believe there are certain guys that, for their own good, shouldn't get huge long-term contracts .................. some guys need that carrot every year to stay focused and motivated

[smeagle]

i just think vick is what he is. always an athlete first and qb second. that will always lead to his problems with turnovers and injuries. the guy doesnt even see it IMO. when he makes the comment when asked about taking too many hits, "hey man i've always gotten hit i just keep getting up and playing. i dont let let it keep me out of games"

huh ? dude you played one damn full season.